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Parliamentary representation is the bedrock of British society today and is more important than has ever been. Great Grimsby is the principle town in the area, the economic centre, the work hub where people commute to. The proposal does not look at the split of Great Grimsby in the interests of the people that live or work here. If this proposal should be accepted it would mean that the principle town would lose its representation overnight. It could be argued and rightly so that the 2 MP’s would look after the majority in their constituency. The figures for Great Grimsby that you use is 58997 and only 57.63% of these vote a total of 34000. This compared with the rural seat of Cleethorpes 78507 and a turnout of 65.63% typically which is 51524 voters, anyone can see that if we half the numbers the rural seat of Cleethorpes will dominate the thoughts of both MPs. Cleethorpes having 25762 voters and Great Grimsby having just 17000 voters. This will not be satisfactory in the long term. The principle town of the area being under-represented will not be good for the residents of Great Grimsby, Cleethorpes Immingham and all the villages. This is argued on the point of economic centres being a lynch pin that economists talk about.

Midlands resident Aaron Fear’s statistical analysis of proposals for the Yorkshire and Humber region (BCE-30360) is referred to twice (3.34 and 3.37) in your revised proposals, but was not posted among comments on the either Grimsby, Brigg and Goole or Cleethorpes constituencies.

The Commission’s comments are selective in quoting individual responses to its initial proposal. Nelson Hunter’s description of the proposal as an acceptable compromise (BCE-39303) is mentioned without acknowledgement that others oppose splitting the town and have explained why.  Peter Sutherland’s two sentence view (BCE- 39548) that the Commission’s proposals are better for maintaining areas with common interests and historic ties is noted, whereas a number of submissions with detailed opposing views are not highlighted. The Commission’s comments note Max Burnett’s assertion (BCE-39232) that initial proposals have ‘gained the most support from residents’.  Max Burnett presents this statement ‘As I understand it...’ and does not explain the basis for it.  George Kraviec’ parallel statement that he has come to the hearing in Hull because the proposal to split Grimsby is ‘causing great local concern’ is not mentioned.

On your feedback to the public, we believe it misrepresents the strength of feeling of the community against these proposals. For example, you have quoted disproportionately people who agree with the initial proposal. We dispute the validity of Max Burnett’s statement (BCE-39232) who said that the initial proposals have “gained the most support from residents” we believe this is made up. The facts are, there are more submission from the residents against the proposals than for them. However, anecdotally we know residents are not happy with the initial proposals, so how has he come to this view, and more concerning why would you publish.

The Grimsby 2gether campaign has Three main objectives:-


  • ‘The proposals do not recognise or take into consideration Great Grimsby’s heritage or historic significance and disregard the town’s privileges as a Parliamentary and Municipal Borough;
  • ‘The proposal to create two constituencies makes no economic or business sense and will not save costs to the public purse;
  • ‘The proposals do not reflect geographic factors, sense of community or local ties.’


Which you have noted, but have not addressed. In her address, Shona McIsaac(BCE-40547) states that the memorial Hall and Cleethorpes railway station would be in Grimsby. Obviously this is factuallywrong, the Commission is not altering borough boundaries.

We note that split wards have featured in other parts of the country, namely Sheffield which is close to Great Grimsby. It is our belief that the Commission should take into consideration the geographical circumstances of Great Grimsby and Cleethorpes constituency. There Is an artificial regional boundary directly south and west of us and the river Humber to the east. This makes us into a narrow strip, and really difficult to gain the flexibility to develop robust constituencies and enhance community and cultural connections. In our view, this is why the Commission is making a flawed proposal, splitting communities, developing weak constituencies and not taking into consideration cultural heritage of the area. We believe that our geographical circumstances make the area a special circumstance and a solution would be to split one ward, namely Croft Baker.

The ward of Sydney Sussex and the polling districts of Croft Baker in our original proposal have more in common withGreat Grimsby than with the rural constituency of Cleethorpes and therefore would create two robust constituencies rather than two weak rural/town constituencies as set out in your proposal. This would also make the job of representing the area, so much easier for the two future MPs.

In your published feedback, you have on many occasions given weight to MPs’ and ex-MPs’ views and it is very concerning that this is the case. These are the very people that have a personal and prejudicial interest in the outcome. Whereas ordinary folk do not have these interests and are submitting their views to make any area better in their view. It therefore beggars belief that the views of over 300 submissions have been totally ignored in your response, when you quote that you want people to be part of the process.

We think that the commission should visit our area, see the issues, talk to residents, understand the community ties and the robust constituencies that could be built. Rather than make the final decision from offices miles away making flawed decisions and two very weak  rural/town constituencies that will have very little going for them.




Great Grimsby Labour Party response to the split

  Parliamentary representation is the bedrock of British society today and is more important than has ever been. Great Grimsby is the principle town in the area, the economic centre,...

The Boundary commission has not listened to the residents of Grimsby and is ploughing ahead with their flawed proposals to split Grimsby in Half. The rules for the commission are set by the Tory Government and are meant to help them cling onto power. Any Government that will resort to gerrymandering the the electorate has got to go!grimsby_split.jpg

Grimsby has the second largest objections lodged with the commission in the region, this should have been enough to make them think again, but no, they have ridden roughshod over the consultation, if you can call it that, and have made a concession. Namely changed the name of the two constituencies to Great Grimsby North and Great Grimsby South + others!. This is to reflect the fact that we are one of the oldest constituencies in the Country and was invited to the first parliament including commoners.

We know the boundary commission has a history of failure, eg the ill fated county of Humberside. Putting Regional Boundaries just south of Humberston, so that Tetney and Holton le clay are in a different region to us. It's farcical!

At the moment only the shoddy deal the Tories have done with the DUP might help put the proposals to bed.. The DUP stand to lose seats and are known to oppose the proposals, therefore a rough ride through parliament is expected..let's hope so!

It is a sad state of affairs when the fate of the parliamentary seat of Great Grimsby lies in the hands of a small sectarian party in Northern Ireland.

Even so, the fight must go on, look to this website for the latest response to this abysmal proposal, and share this article far and wide!

Grimsby Carved up by Tory Party proposals

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While the Tories continue to weave their unhappy way through Brexit and other crises they have created not only for themselves, but for all of us, here in North East Lincolnshire I’m delighted to say Labour is seeing our ambition to improve the lives of our residents begin to take shape.

Oxby-web-200x300.jpgOur role in moving our communities forward to a brighter future is something many of you are directly involved in and recently, we’ve had a number of prime examples of how this area is evolving and regenerating itself. In different ways, all of these spell out what we’re trying to achieve here- helping re-invigorate the area and working with our communities to help them help themselves.

Doing that successfully and sustainably is the key to our future prosperity

Many of you will already be aware of our ambitious multi-million pound town deal proposal for Greater Grimsby, which has now been presented to central  government.  We’ve drawn up the proposals that could become the blueprint for how similar towns across the country work with government on major regeneration.

This really is groundbreaking stuff, not pie-in-the sky ideas, but a clear 10-year plan aimed at growing the local economy by more than £216 million per year, creating up to 5,400 jobs across the Enterprise Zones and other key employment sites, building 7,700 new homes and increasing North East Lincolnshire’s contribution to UK plc. It will transform the ‘place offer’ through the development of a new higher education presence, waterfront housing, cultural and leisure facilities through the redevelopment of historic sites including the Silo at Victoria Mills and the Kasbah at the Port of Grimsby. 

Colleagues, we should be proud that this is a Labour administration bringing key UK players together to hopefully deliver some real, tangible and long-term benefits for our community. And while there’s still a long way to go on this, I’m optimistic the project will be included in the Government’s Autumn Statement.

On the same theme and despite some hiccups with the status of the popular Barge, I’m confident we’re also now in a position to see a new cinema complex at the Riverhead in town move forward. We’ve held very productive talks with both the owner of the Barge and the cinema complex developers to explore a number of options to ensure we not only look to the future with the development of the cinema and restaurant project, but also maintain our links to the past by securing a sustainable future for the Barge and its users. Again, all about working together for the benefit of the whole area-and oh.,listening to and responding to our residents concerns, especially those in the West Marsh.

Parallel to this, we’ve also worked to bring more than £6m of external investment into Cleethorpes, via CoastNEL, which was awarded nearly £4million from the Coastal Communities Fund to help deliver a number of key projects in the town and £1.9m Heritage Lottery Funding which was awarded to us to support our Townscape Heritage programme in Cleethorpes.

Comrades, while these highlight the progress we’ve made, we’ve also got to be careful about taking our eye off the ball, despite the usual political point scoring from our opponents.

Taking challenging and difficult decisions in the face of continuing cuts from central Government is something none of us find easy. But we need to be clear that these decisions have to be taken in order that the Council remains solvent and we’re in a position to continue to protect our most vulnerable residents. To be in a position to deliver on our promises, we’ve got to do all we can to maximise the regeneration of this wonderful place we all call home.

And in doing all of that, we must continue to ensure our residents know where the real blame for continuing cutbacks lay and that we’re doing our very best for them in spite of the Tories and their blundering leadership and misguided austerity rhetoric.

Ray Oxby


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